8.5 wide 4 box pianissimo shank low vamp high heel These were custom ordered based on an online fitting. I really tried to love them, but they’re just not right for me. I only wore them twice, once only for barre. They really are almost like a new pair, just a little soiled from the floor, and sewn with flex ribbon. They were $170 plus shipping, so this price is quite a bit lower. 😪